pauleaglereasons Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hi, firstly I must apologise for not knowing how forums work and that this topic may have been covered earlier but I can't find it. I have managed to finally download and play 24 tables in a set up before I finally put it all in a cabinet.The issue I have is where playing the tables through Pinballx 75% of the tables become unplayable due to ball.lag. The same tables when launched through visual pinball play 100% perfect. Please help before I give up on the project.....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 You probably need to give us more to go on. Please submit copies of your log.txt and pinballx.ini files for starters. Click on the PinballX How to ask for help link in my sig for instructions on where to find them and attach them in reply to this thread. Also, it might help to know the version(s) of visual pinball and the tables affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtkiii Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 As Draco states we need a bit more detail. Typically if it is playing fine in VP then it is a setting you have set in PBX. Be patient you will find your way...PBX is a great frontend once everything is running as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello. I'm new to PinballX and Visual Pinball in general. I've just set up a new rig for the purpose. I'm experiencing the same problem as the OP: The ball is jerky and the flippers feel laggy when I start my tables (Scared Stiff and Bram Stoker's Dracula) through PinballX. When started from VPX everything is smooth as silk. Any help appreciated. The PinballX seems fantastic frontend and I'd really like to get it up and running properly. My PinballX.ini: Spoiler [Display] Monitor=0 rotate=0 Windowed=False WindowWidth=480 WindowHeight=720 WindowX=0 WindowY=65 PlayFieldBrightness=230 WheelTextColor=ffffffff WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000 InfoTextColor=ffffffff InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000 FilterTextColor=ffffffff FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000 MenuColor=ffffa500 [BackGlass] monitor=1 x=0 y=0 width=1920 height=1080 AutoPositionB2S=True [DMD] Enabled=False monitor=2 x=0 y=0 width=900 height=300 AutoPositionPinMAME=False [FileSystem] EnableFileMatching=True [Interface] DesktopModeEnabled=False EnableAdditionalDetail=True ShowSystem=True ShowRatings=True WheelOverlay=1 [Audio] StreamVolume=10 SampleVolume=10 PlaySoundInVideos=True [Startup] playsound=False playvideo=False StartWithWindows=Yes [KeyCodes] quit=27 left=160 right=161 select=49 rotate=82 pageleft=33 pageright=34 exitemulator=27 ingame=80 screenshot=83 screenshotbackglass=66 instructions=73 volumedown=109 volumeup=107 credit=53 plunger=13 [JoyCodes] quit=10 left=0 right=1 select=2 rotate=3 pageleft=4 pageright=5 exitemulator=6 ingame=13 instructions=14 [Text] Line1=Free Play Line2=Press Start Featuring=Featuring Tables=Tables PlayGame=Play Game Instructions=Instructions Information=Information Flyer=Flyer Gameplay=Gameplay Tutorial=Tutorial ExitGame=Exit Game ReturnToGame=Return to Game Return=Return Exit=Exit Shutdown=Shutdown [FuturePinball] Enabled=False WorkingPath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL- TablePath=h:\-PINBALL-\-FUTURE PINBALL-\Tables Executable=Future Pinball.exe Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True MouseClickFocus=True [VisualPinball] Enabled=True WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables Executable=VPinballX.exe Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True AutoConfigure=False [ExitScreen] Enabled=True EnableExit=True EnableShutdown=True [StartupProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=true WaitForExit=false [ExitProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=False WaitForExit= [AttractMode] Enabled=True Timer=1 ShowFor=15 MuteAudio=False [System_1] Name=MAME Enabled=True WorkingPath=C:\MAME TablePath=C:\MAME\roms Executable=mamep64.exe Parameters=[TABLEFILE] SystemType=0 [AutoExit] Enabled=False Minutes=10 [Login] Enabled=False [PinballFX2] Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 226980 [TABLEFILE] Process=Pinball FX2.exe Rotate=False WaitFor=20 [Internal] lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123 lastselected=Scared Stiff (Bally 1996)Scared Stiff (Bally 1996)VisualPinball filter_year= filter_company= filter_custom= filtername=Tables lastwheelcachematchsize2=55530 [PinballArcade] WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 238260 Process=PinballArcade.exe WaitForSelect=50 [GameListManager] onlinemode=false [RealDMD] EnableColor=True Color=ffff1414 [SetupWizard] EmuPath1=C:\Emulators AssetPath1=C:\Assets RomPath1=C:\Roms DefaultPathPrompt=True DownloadDatabasePrompt=True DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True WizardMode=1 CustomArray= SearchArray= SavePosition=False SectionIndex=16 SearchText= EmulatorIndex=0 EmulatorGroupIndex=0 DaphneIndex=0 HTMLAppsIndex=0 ExternalAppsIndex=0 RadioStationsIndex=0 NewsFeedsIndex=0 MappedDrivesIndex=0 SystemIndex=0 ShowPanel=True FontSize=1 WindowState=0 WindowSize=913,872 WindowLocation=109,474 And a log.txt from a laggy session: Spoiler 15:01:41.4 3/14/2017: PinballX - Version 2.31 15:01:41.6 3/14/2017: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (7.9GB) 15:01:41.6 3/14/2017: Loading Settings 15:01:41.6 3/14/2017: Initialize Component 15:01:41.7 3/14/2017: Initialize Display 15:01:43.0 3/14/2017: Loading PlugIns 15:01:43.4 3/14/2017: Hiding Cursor 15:01:43.4 3/14/2017: Hiding Taskbar 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: Displays: 1 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: Load Game List 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: Loading Database: Visual Pinball 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: Loading Database: MAME 15:01:43.7 3/14/2017: Finding and matching artwork and videos 15:01:43.8 3/14/2017: Loading Game Statistics and Scores 15:01:44.2 3/14/2017: Loading Surfaces 15:01:44.3 3/14/2017: Finished Loading Surfaces 15:01:44.3 3/14/2017: Initialize Audio 15:01:44.5 3/14/2017: Set Keyboard Controls 15:01:44.5 3/14/2017: Initialize Joystick 15:01:44.6 3/14/2017: No Joysticks Attached 15:01:44.6 3/14/2017: Started 15:01:56.7 3/14/2017: Launch System 15:01:56.7 3/14/2017: Waiting for threads 15:01:56.7 3/14/2017: Disposing display 15:01:57.6 3/14/2017: C:\Visual Pinball\VPinballX.exe /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Scared Stiff (Bally 1996).vpx" 15:01:58.9 3/14/2017: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe 15:02:12.7 3/14/2017: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window 15:02:14.3 3/14/2017: Found PinMAME ROM: ss_15.nv 15:03:10.7 3/14/2017: Exit System Control Pressed 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Exiting 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Showing Taskbar 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Unhiding Mouse Cursor 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Disposing Plugins 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Saving Settings 15:03:24.3 3/14/2017: Bye Anything more I can tell, just ask. 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Carny_Priest Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1. Try running VPX using exclusive full screen setting. 2. Try running PinballX display as windowed, full screen 3. Do you run VPX using DOF? 4. Have you tried to see what happens if you played a non-VPM table (like an EM recreation)? 5. What NVidia settings do you use? 6. What AA settings do you use in VPX? In other words, even though you have a fancy new card, you still may not be able to get away with Brute force 4X AA on some of the larger tables and you will need to walk your AA settings back a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 18 hours ago, Carny_Priest said: 2. Try running PinballX display as windowed, full screen Thanks for helping out. The point 2. was the key. Changing the config "Full screen windowed" from NO to YES and all the lagginess is gone. I also learned how to get FPS readings out. With this setting as NO the FPS drops in Scared Stiff from about 190 -> 40. 190 is also what I get when run without PinballX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleaglereasons Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Carny_Priest point 2 cured my issue. Now runs windowed in both pinball x and visual pinball. Will now build the cabinet. Keep the good work up guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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