Windows XP PinballX issue

**Draco1962** · October 19, 2013

Sorry, I explained this wrong. The start of PinballX is even slowlier when I start it manually from desktop after I closed it manually. If I uncheck the option ' Start with windows', PinballX will start much faster from desktop.

How about when you actually start Windows? It is my guess that there may be a delay hard-coded with that option to allow other processes to complete prior to starting PinballX (I am just an admin and not the author so I cannot confirm this).

I would recommend not selecting that option if you are not using it in a pincade setup.

**antonius1** · October 19, 2013

Yes, a hard coded delay could be a reason. But it is not a problem for me. I put the link to PinballX in the autostart-folder, and so it starts fast. I use PinballX in my cab, so I want to start it automatically. I was only a little bit confused about this.

Thanks.

**tttttwii** · October 19, 2013

Dear Tom,

on my cab (win32) the latest version 1.67 also seems to crash. Table is starting but after pressing the exit key pinballX crashed.

The modified pinballx.exe you posted yesterday gives me errors while unzipping. Can you please post again?

Please find here the log.txt

19:29:18.5 19.10.2013: PinballX - Version 1.67
19:29:18.5 19.10.2013: Loading Settings
19:29:18.5 19.10.2013: Initialize Component
19:29:18.6 19.10.2013: Initialize Display
19:29:18.7 19.10.2013: Loading PlugIns
19:29:18.9 19.10.2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Hiding Cursor
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Hiding Taskbar
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Load Game List
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Loading Database: Future Pinball
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Loading Custom Database: B2STableSettings
19:29:19.0 19.10.2013: Finding and matching artwork and videos
19:29:19.2 19.10.2013: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
19:29:20.4 19.10.2013: Initialize Audio
19:29:20.5 19.10.2013: Set Keyboard Controls
19:29:20.5 19.10.2013: Initialize Joystick
19:29:20.6 19.10.2013: 1 Joystick Attached
19:29:20.6 19.10.2013: Started
19:29:25.1 19.10.2013: Launch System
19:29:25.1 19.10.2013: Disposing display
19:29:31.0 19.10.2013: Waiting for threads
19:29:31.1 19.10.2013: C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\Tables\AFM_vp914_v2.4FS.vpt"
19:29:31.1 19.10.2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
19:29:36.3 19.10.2013: Found PinMAME ROM: afm_113b.nv
19:29:47.7 19.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
19:29:51.8 19.10.2013: Exit System Control Pressed
19:29:54.2 19.10.2013: Waiting: 243
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: Error. Exiting
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: Error in the application.
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.a(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1)
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: Disposing Plugins
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: Showing Taskbar
19:29:54.7 19.10.2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

log.txt

**Tom Speirs** · October 19, 2013

Here is the latest test version posted as a zip.

Sounds like we are making some progress. Ill be continuing on this on Monday.

And yes there is a delay when using the start with windows. This ensures nothing steals window focus.

PinballX.zip

**tttttwii** · October 20, 2013

Tom, the attached file works much better. I tried out several tables and everything worked fine, after the 8th table (Rocky) pinballX crashed. So, much better than the old one, which crashed at every table. Thanks!

**insx** · October 20, 2013

I'll get back on board with this tomorrow, I've been driling and soldering today and finished off with a few games. I'm still getting the odd crash so will try the latest exe.

**Tom Speirs** · October 21, 2013

Here is another version to try. I am interested to know if DirectBS works again after using In game.

Its a weird issue you guys have and I don't know if Ill get it to never crash. I don't think it affects most people.

PinballX.zip

**antonius1** · October 21, 2013

Hi Tom,

I have tested the new version above. For me this version is bad. The InGame-menu doesn't appear, and pressing Exit crashes PinballX. I have reinstalled the older version. With the older version I did some test with the directb2s. It seems, that the directb2s is running when I return from Ingame-menu to normal playing. The directb2s is only hidden behind the black PinballX-backglass. I can switch the directb2s to foreground with Alt-Tab. But this is not very usefull in a cab.

Thanks anyway for your incredible work. Can you tell us more about the weird issue we have? Can we just reorganize something in our config?

Best regards from bavaria

Antonius

**Tom Speirs** · October 21, 2013

All I can say is I am pretty sure it was all working for most folks. Maybe its a combination of XP and Nvidia.

Anyway, please try the attached. Ensure you have set the bacglass and dmd to hid in the list manager.

Thanks.

Tom.

PinballX.zip

**antonius1** · October 21, 2013

Hi Tom,

i have tested the actual version above. It's the same. The InGame-menu doesn't appear, and pressing Exit crashes PinballX. I have checked the GameManager. On every table the hide backglass and the hide dmd is marked with a cross.

My config includes Nvidia and XP SP3. I think, the most cabs run with this combination, because this is recommended at VPForums. I'm using Nvidia driver Version 270 because every newer verson slows down VP extreme.

Best regards

Antonius

23:24:19.3 21.10.2013: PinballX - Version 1.67
23:24:19.3 21.10.2013: Loading Settings
23:24:19.3 21.10.2013: Initialize Component
23:24:19.4 21.10.2013: Initialize Display
23:24:19.4 21.10.2013: Loading PlugIns
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Hiding Cursor
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Hiding Taskbar
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Load Game List
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
23:24:19.5 21.10.2013: Finding and matching artwork and videos
23:24:19.9 21.10.2013: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
23:24:20.7 21.10.2013: Initialize Audio
23:24:20.8 21.10.2013: Set Keyboard Controls
23:24:20.8 21.10.2013: Initialize Joystick
23:24:20.9 21.10.2013: 1 Joystick Attached
23:24:20.9 21.10.2013: Started
23:24:51.3 21.10.2013: Launch System
23:24:51.3 21.10.2013: Waiting for threads
23:24:51.3 21.10.2013: Disposing display
23:24:52.4 21.10.2013: C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\Tables\ARFM_VP91x_v2.3FS.vpt"
23:24:52.4 21.10.2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
23:24:57.6 21.10.2013: Found PinMAME ROM: afm_113b.nv
23:25:02.3 21.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
23:25:04.7 21.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
23:25:06.7 21.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
23:25:08.6 21.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
23:25:10.4 21.10.2013: In Game: Error Initializing Display
23:25:12.3 21.10.2013: Exit System Control Pressed
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: Error. Exiting
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: Error in the application.
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: Disposing Plugins
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: Showing Taskbar
23:25:15.1 21.10.2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

**Tom Speirs** · October 21, 2013

Does it crash if you don't use in game?

**Tom Speirs** · October 21, 2013

Here is another version to try. I will carry on. Its a tricky issue as basically I am just working around driver issues.

PinballX.zip

**Tom Speirs** · October 22, 2013

Here is another one.

PinballX.zip

**antonius1** · October 22, 2013

I will try the new versions when i'm back from work.

Thanks.

**insx** · October 22, 2013

I upgraded to the latest nVidia driver and PinballX stopped working completely! I'm going to test the latest PinballX with the nVidia 270 driver later.

**Verisutha** · October 22, 2013

Here is another version to try. I am interested to know if DirectBS works again after using In game.
Its a weird issue you guys have and I don't know if Ill get it to never crash. I don't think it affects most people.

I was playing with the new version a bit last night and I didn't encounter any crashing. Although I didn't focus on a lot of testing because I was finishing the rewiring for my cabinet. I should have time tonight to really put it though it's paces and give you a final outline.

Thanks for working on resolving the problems.

**antonius1** · October 22, 2013

Hi Tom,

i did some testing with the two versions from today. With the first version I had following results:

Exit button during playing works as expected

InGame button works as expected

Directb2s after InGame button and return to table works not ( It's in the background)

Exit button during playing after once going in the InGame menu and return to table => crashes PinballX

With the second version I had following results:

Exit button during playing works as expected

InGame button opens InGame menu

Directb2s after InGame button and return to table works => YEAHH

InGame button and then exit the table from within the InGame menu => crashes PinballX

Exit button during playing after once going in the InGame menu and return to table => crashes PinballX

Best regards

Antonius

log_V1_1.txt log_V1_2.txt log_V2_1.txt log_V2_2.txt

**insx** · October 22, 2013

This might be a clue. I went in and out of Medieval Madness 6 times without playing the game and everything worked fine. A problem I'm having currently is that the ROM is activating first and ending up behind the direct2bs backglass so I have to do ALT+TAB to bring the ROM to the front and then click back on the VP table screen (my 3rd monitor broke so I'm on a 2 monitor setup currently). After doing this, PinballX crashes to the desktop when I exit VP.

**Tom Speirs** · October 23, 2013

Here is another version to try. This should "hopefully" fix the in game issues.

PinballX.zip

**antonius1** · October 23, 2013

Hi Tom,

i did some testing with the version from today with the following results:

Quit button during playing works as expected

InGame button opens InGame menu

Directb2s after InGame button and return to table works => YEAHH

InGame button and then exit the table from within the InGame menu => crashes PinballX

Quit button during playing after once going in the InGame menu and return to table => crashes PinballX

It seems to be the same result as with the second version from yesterday. :unsure:

Thank you very much for working on resolving the problems.

Best regards

Antonius

**insx** · October 25, 2013

I'm still getting crashes but mostly when I have had to use ALT + TAB to get my DMD in the foreground. I shouldn't have this issue when I get my 3rd screen sorted out.

**tttttwii** · October 27, 2013

Hi Tom, I downloaded your latest version. It works well until I exit a table. The program exits to the dektop. Please find here the log-file:

16:31:03.9 27.10.2013: PinballX - Version 1.67
16:31:03.9 27.10.2013: Loading Settings
16:31:03.9 27.10.2013: Initialize Component
16:31:03.9 27.10.2013: Initialize Display
16:31:04.0 27.10.2013: Loading PlugIns
16:31:04.2 27.10.2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
16:31:04.3 27.10.2013: Hiding Cursor
16:31:04.3 27.10.2013: Hiding Taskbar
16:31:04.3 27.10.2013: Load Game List
16:31:04.4 27.10.2013: Loading Database: Future Pinball
16:31:04.4 27.10.2013: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
16:31:04.4 27.10.2013: Finding and matching artwork and videos
16:31:04.5 27.10.2013: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
16:31:05.7 27.10.2013: Initialize Audio
16:31:05.8 27.10.2013: Set Keyboard Controls
16:31:05.8 27.10.2013: Initialize Joystick
16:31:05.9 27.10.2013: 1 Joystick Attached
16:31:05.9 27.10.2013: Started
16:31:13.9 27.10.2013: Launch System
16:31:13.9 27.10.2013: Waiting for threads
16:31:13.9 27.10.2013: Disposing display
16:31:16.3 27.10.2013: C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Programme\Visual Pinball\Tables\Laser_Cue_FS_v1_0_MRCMRC.vpt"
16:31:16.3 27.10.2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
16:31:24.1 27.10.2013: Found PinMAME ROM: lsrcu_l2.nv
16:32:14.5 27.10.2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
16:32:17.1 27.10.2013: Exit System Control Pressed
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: Error. Exiting
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: Error in the application.
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: Disposing Plugins
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: Showing Taskbar
16:32:19.7 27.10.2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

**Tom Speirs** · October 28, 2013

Here is another version to try for you all. I think we just need to fix in game mode, correct?

PinballX.zip

**insx** · October 29, 2013

I have Quit and Exit Emulator set to joystick button 6, I don't have anything set for Pause/In Game.

I started and exited 3 games OK but the 4th game crashed:

08:10:26.8 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:10:26.8 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:10:26.8 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:10:29.0 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness.vpt"
08:10:29.0 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:10:35.5 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mm_109b.nv
08:10:46.7 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:10:49.5 29/10/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
08:10:56.2 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:10:56.2 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:10:56.2 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:10:58.1 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Whirlwind.vpt"
08:10:58.1 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:11:03.2 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: whirl_l3.nv
08:11:09.3 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:11:12.2 29/10/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
08:11:16.8 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:11:16.8 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:11:16.8 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:11:18.7 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Attack from Mars.vpt"
08:11:18.7 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:11:33.6 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: afm_113b.nv
08:11:48.6 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:11:56.0 29/10/2013: Error. Exiting
08:11:56.0 29/10/2013: Error in the application.
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: Disposing Plugins
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: Showing Taskbar
08:11:56.1 29/10/2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

I should mention that on this 4th time the game came up REALLY slowly. I get this sometimes, especially when loading Junk Yard and sometimes AFM.

**insx** · October 29, 2013

I started and exited Medieval Madness 10 times with no problems. I then started and exited Monster Bash and it crashed:

08:19:49.3 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:19:49.3 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:19:49.3 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:19:51.3 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness.vpt"
08:19:51.3 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:19:57.7 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mm_109b.nv
08:20:07.4 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:20:10.2 29/10/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
08:20:15.5 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:20:15.5 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:20:15.5 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:20:18.2 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness.vpt"
08:20:18.2 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:20:25.9 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mm_109b.nv
08:20:40.9 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:20:43.5 29/10/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
08:20:46.3 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:20:46.3 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:20:46.3 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:20:48.2 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Medieval Madness.vpt"
08:20:48.2 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:20:54.7 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mm_109b.nv
08:21:04.4 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:21:07.2 29/10/2013: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
08:21:13.1 29/10/2013: Launch System
08:21:13.1 29/10/2013: Waiting for threads
08:21:13.1 29/10/2013: Disposing display
08:21:15.4 29/10/2013: C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\VPinball.exe /play -"C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball\Tables\Monster Bash.vpt"
08:21:15.4 29/10/2013: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
08:21:23.1 29/10/2013: Found PinMAME ROM: mb_106b.nv
08:21:36.2 29/10/2013: Exit System Control Pressed
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: Error. Exiting
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: Error in the application.
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: at Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device..ctor(Int32 adapter, DeviceType deviceType, Control renderWindow, CreateFlags behaviorFlags, PresentParameters[] presentationParameters)
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: at Direct2D.Direct2d.Device..ctor(Form FormHandle, Int32 Width, Int32 Height, Boolean Windowed, Boolean VSync, Boolean Display16Bit, Int32 DisplayNbr, Int32 RefreshRate)
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main.b(Boolean A_0, Boolean A_1, Boolean A_2)
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main.ac()
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: at PinballX.Main..ctor()
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: Disposing Plugins
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: Showing Taskbar
08:21:39.0 29/10/2013: Unhiding Mouse Cursor

I can't reproduce this, I exited MM 10 times and MB 6 times without a crash.

Windows XP PinballX issue

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