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Hello, everyone. I have recently started creating my machine, and I need some help. The other day I had moved a bunch of MAME ROMS to the proper directory through the set up wizard, and made sure that they all worked . Then, something happened. All but two of the 22 games that I have are now loading black screens, and then after about 5 seconds they load out to the main menu. Does anyone know what may have caused this? I would also like to know if MAME ROMS are known for not working a lot of the time. I have well over 100 and only a handful of them work.

Separately, I am also having problems with the nestopia emulator recognizing my NES ROMS while in GameEx. The error message says something about file extension .dll not being found. I do know that they work as I have run them with the same emulator outside of GameEx. I really like this frontend, so far. I am just a little frustrated about the situation.

On even more of a side note, I would like to know what I can do about getting the pre-loaded ROMS, Dk, Smash Tv, Tempest, etc. to boot up and become playable, as they are currently not working either. Again, I am really excited to use this FE. Thank you for reading this, and I look forward to your much needed help.

Doug

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Howdy Doug, and welcome to the GameEx forums!

So it sounds like we’ve got some work to do here, so let’s get the most important order of business out of the way first. In order to better assist you we’re going to need to know more about your setup. The How to Ask For Help thread will be your best friend insofar as how to access the requested information (Wow - you just got here and you already have a best friend!)

Regarding you MAME problem it would be good to see your GameEx.ini, your GameEx log (after attempting to run a problematic game through MAME), and your runitgame.bat (attempting to run a problematic game through MAME)

For the Nestopia issue it would be good to upload your emulator config for Nestopia, your GameEx log (attempting to run a problematic game through Nestopia), and your runitgame.bat (attempting to run a problematic game through Nestopia).

As a final note GameEx doesn’t come preloaded with any ROMs. It does come with videos and artwork for DK, Smash TV, Tempest, etc which serve as something of a tech demo for the frontend. All the games are necessarily supplied by you.

I look forward to hearing from you Doug, so we can dive into some troubleshooting!

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Hey nullPointer. Here is the .ini for the nestopia. Thanks again for all of your help.

[Emulator]
CDCheckFile=
CDCheck=False
RandomMostPlayed=True
ShowMostPlayed=True
PlayInScreenSaver=False
GamesIn7Zips=False
PCGame=False
SelectionMusicFolder=
PlaySelectionMusic=False
DontShowInfo=
PlayMusic=False
CustomBackground=
ExcludedFiles=
LaunchAfter=
LaunchBefore=
OLDatZip=
AlsoLaunch=
Debug=False
ShowDesktop=True
RemoveBrackets=True
Capitals=False
ReplaceUnder=True
ReplaceDash=False
SendKeys=
WaitBeforeKeys=
MapKeys=True
WorkingPath=C:\Emulators\Nestopia
ControlPanelPath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Controls
ManualPath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Manuals
CartPath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Cartridges
BoxPath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Boxes
TitlePath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Titles
SnapPath=C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Snaps
RomPath=C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\NES
MapFile=
ConfigFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)
Database=[Console] Nintendo NES
RomFilter=
Command=Nestopia.exe "[ROMPATH]\[ROMFILE]"
StartPageLogo=Nintendo NES
StartPageName=Nintendo NES
TitleText=Nintendo NES
Info=Nintendo NES 8bit emulator
Website=http://nestopia.sourceforge.net/
RequiredFiles=
DownloadUrl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/Nestopia.7z
Rating=8.6
Version=1.41.1
Emulator=Nestopia
Category=Console
System=Nintendo NES
Enabled=True
lastgame=

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Here is the MAME .ini

[Emulator]
CDCheck=
RandomMostPlayed=
ShowMostPlayed=
PlayInScreenSaver=
MergeSets=
GamesIn7Zips=False
UseDbName=
PCGame=
SelectionMusicFolder=
PlaySelectionMusic=
DontShowInfo=
PlayMusic=
CustomBackground=
ExcludedFiles=
LaunchAfter=
LaunchBefore=
AlsoLaunch=
Debug=
ShowDesktop=
RemoveBrackets=
Capitals=
ReplaceUnder=
ReplaceDash=
SendKeys=
WaitBeforeKeys=
MapKeys=
WorkingPath=C:\Emulators\MAME
ControlPanelPath=C:\Assets\MAME\Controls
ManualPath=C:\Assets\MAME\Manuals
CartPath=C:\Assets\MAME\Cartridges
BoxPath=C:\Assets\MAME\Boxes
TitlePath=C:\Assets\MAME\Titles
SnapPath=C:\Assets\MAME\Snaps
RomPath=C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\MAME
MapFile=[APP]\Map Files\[Arcade] MAME.map
ConfigFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)
Database=
RomFilter=
Command=mame.exe [ROM] -rompath "[ROMPATH]"
StartPageLogo=mame
StartPageName=(MAME)
TitleText=Mame
Info=MAME stands for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. When used in conjunction with images of the original arcade game's ROM and disk data, MAME attempts to reproduce that game as faithfully as possible on a more modern general-purpose computer. MAME can currently emulate several thousand different classic arcade video games from the late 1970s through the modern era.
Website=http://mamedev.org/
RequiredFiles=
DownloadUrl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/mame.7z
Rating=8.4
Version=0.145
Emulator=MAME
Category=Arcade
System=Arcade
Enabled=True
CDCheckFile=
CustomArtName1=
CustomArtPath1=
CustomArtName2=
CustomArtPath2=
CustomArtName3=
CustomArtPath3=
lastgame=

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here is the log file. I highlighted the attempts at running games in RED (Altered Beast: MAME; Adventure Island II: Nestopia)

07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Opening Configuration File
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: GameEx: Version 13.05: Starting Log
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Operating System Platform: Win32NT
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Operating System Name: Windows 7
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Operating System Version: 6.1.7601
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Aero running
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Initializing Vista/Windows 7 volume control
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Getting CPU and RAM info
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Genuine Intel® CPU U4100 @ 1.30GHz, 2937MB
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: 1.3Ghz - 2 Cores or CPU's
07:22:11.7 5/15/2013: Running Randomize()
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Loading PlugIns
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Running Misc startup tasks
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Setting Menu types
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Getting Configuration Values
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Using Theme: Default - Deep Purple V1
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - Deep Purple V1
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Using Images from theme: Default - Deep Purple\MEDIA\
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Launching HideOS.exe
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Arcade Mode is on
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: GameEx will check for media insertion (may affect performance)
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Hiding Taskbar
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Is Media Center running?
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Media Center Mode 2
07:22:11.8 5/15/2013: Video previews on. Warning: Only recommended on modern systems
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Custom Game Device Input enabled: Getting custom codes
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Snap Delay set to: 4
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Get other settings
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Desktop set to Hide ICONS and set Background to Black
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Start work for Form
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Getting Original Screen Size
07:22:11.9 5/15/2013: Opening Database Connection
07:22:12.1 5/15/2013: Initializing Component
07:22:12.2 5/15/2013: MAME Path is: C:\GameEx
07:22:12.2 5/15/2013: MAME EXE file is: Sleep.exe
07:22:12.3 5/15/2013: ROM Paths are: C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\MAME;C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\MAME
07:22:12.3 5/15/2013: Catver.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini
07:22:12.3 5/15/2013: controls.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\controls.ini
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: History.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\history.dat
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: nplayers.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: command.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\command.dat
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Loading Controls.ini map file
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Snap Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\snaps
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Background Snap Path: Not Found
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: AVI Snap Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\video
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Flyer Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\flyers
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Cabinet Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\cabinets
07:22:12.4 5/15/2013: Cabinet 3D Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\cabinets3d
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Title Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\titles
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: PCB Path: Not Found
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Artwork Preview Path: Not Found
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Panel Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\cpanel
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Manual Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\manual
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Icon Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\icons
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Marquee Path is: C:\GameEx\DEMO\MAME\marquees
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Applying Language/Text
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Text/Language: English
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Loading Language/Text
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Loading Custom Emulators
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Loading Emulator 2: Nintendo NES
07:22:12.5 5/15/2013: Loading Emulator 3: Sega Genesis
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Loading Emulator 4: (MAME)
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Using 2D Animations
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Retrieving resolution setting
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: GameEx will try to reduce CPU usage
07:22:12.6 5/15/2013: Initialising Direct3D
07:22:12.9 5/15/2013: Setting Resolution to 1366x768 32 bit color
07:22:13.0 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces
07:22:14.4 5/15/2013: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode
07:22:14.4 5/15/2013: Creating Back Buffer
07:22:14.4 5/15/2013: Loading graphic Surfaces
07:22:14.4 5/15/2013: Display is running at: 1366x768 32bit color, 60hz
07:22:14.5 5/15/2013: Adapter: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family
07:22:14.5 5/15/2013: Max texture size: 4096x4096
07:22:14.5 5/15/2013: Available texture memory: 1328MB
07:22:14.5 5/15/2013: Initialising Bass Audio Library
07:22:14.6 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Volume
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Arrows
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Toolbar
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls
07:22:14.8 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds
07:22:14.9 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo
07:22:14.9 5/15/2013: Creating Surface Unselected
07:22:14.9 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Home & Exit
07:22:14.9 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Snaps
07:22:14.9 5/15/2013: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars
07:22:15.1 5/15/2013: Creating Fonts
07:22:15.1 5/15/2013: Creating Game Font
07:22:15.6 5/15/2013: Creating Game Font Faded
07:22:16.3 5/15/2013: Creating Title Font
07:22:18.8 5/15/2013: Creating Menu Font
07:22:19.4 5/15/2013: Creating Font Black
07:22:19.5 5/15/2013: Creating Font Black Small
07:22:19.6 5/15/2013: Fonts Created Succesfully
07:22:19.6 5/15/2013: 4MB Video Memory Used
07:22:42.2 5/15/2013: Attempting to load game list
07:22:42.2 5/15/2013: MAME CMD options: -nowindow -joy -skip_gameinfo
07:22:42.2 5/15/2013: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support
07:22:42.3 5/15/2013: Unable to create a joystick device
07:22:42.3 5/15/2013: Loading Start Page
07:22:42.4 5/15/2013: Initializing MCE Remote
07:22:42.4 5/15/2013: Playing intro sound file
07:22:42.7 5/15/2013: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!
07:22:42.7 5/15/2013: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame
07:22:43.6 5/15/2013: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Snap Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Snaps
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Control Panel Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Controls
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Database: [Console] Nintendo NES
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Title Snap Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Titles
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Box Art Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Boxes
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Cart Art Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Cartridges
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_2: Manual Path: C:\Assets\Nintendo NES\Manuals
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Snap Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Snaps
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Control Panel Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Controls
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Database: [Console] Sega Genesis
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Title Snap Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Titles
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Box Art Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Boxes
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Cart Art Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Cartridges
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_3: Manual Path: C:\Assets\Sega Genesis\Manuals
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Snap Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Snaps
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Control Panel Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Controls
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Title Snap Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Titles
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Box Art Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Boxes
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Cart Art Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Cartridges
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Validating: Emulator_4: Manual Path: C:\Assets\MAME\Manuals
07:22:48.1 5/15/2013: Warning: Emulator_4: MAPFile Does Not Exist
07:22:48.2 5/15/2013: Not Restoring Emulator Database From Cache: 2
07:22:48.6 5/15/2013: Restoring Emulator from Cache: 3
07:22:48.6 5/15/2013: Restoring Emulator Database From Cache: 3
07:22:48.7 5/15/2013: Restoring Emulator from Cache: 4
07:23:25.8 5/15/2013: Creating instance of global keyboard hook
07:23:25.8 5/15/2013: Running: cmd.exe /c C: mame.exe Altered Beast -rompath "C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\MAME"
07:23:26.0 5/15/2013: Shutting down display
07:23:31.3 5/15/2013: Writing Stats
07:23:31.3 5/15/2013: Plugin: Game Exit
07:23:31.3 5/15/2013: Plugin: Process Commands
07:23:31.3 5/15/2013: Refreshing Keyboard
07:23:31.4 5/15/2013: Initialising Audio
07:23:31.6 5/15/2013: Restoring Window
07:23:31.6 5/15/2013: Reinitializing Graphics System
07:23:34.8 5/15/2013: Reloading Game Info Page
07:23:34.9 5/15/2013: Returning to GameEx
07:24:01.2 5/15/2013: Running: cmd.exe /c C: Nestopia.exe "C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\NES\Adventure Island II.zip"
07:24:01.4 5/15/2013: Shutting down display
07:24:03.0 5/15/2013: Writing Stats
07:24:03.1 5/15/2013: Plugin: Game Exit
07:24:03.1 5/15/2013: Plugin: Process Commands
07:24:03.1 5/15/2013: Refreshing Keyboard
07:24:03.2 5/15/2013: Initialising Audio
07:24:03.2 5/15/2013: Relaunching HideOS
07:24:03.6 5/15/2013: Restoring Window
07:24:03.6 5/15/2013: Reinitializing Graphics System
07:24:06.8 5/15/2013: Reloading Game Info Page
07:24:06.8 5/15/2013: Returning to GameEx
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Exiting GameEx!
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Disposing all videos
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Deleting temporary Karaoke videos
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Disposing Image List
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Disposing Fonts
07:25:17.4 5/15/2013: Disposing Surfaces
07:25:17.6 5/15/2013: Saving Settings
07:25:17.6 5/15/2013: Shutting down Bass
07:25:17.9 5/15/2013: Closing HideOS.exe
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Disposing Plugins
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Disposing Plugins
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Closing database connection
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Media Center was not open when starting GameEx, so not launching
07:25:18.2 5/15/2013: Bye

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This is the runitgame.bat info.

Nestopia runitgame.bat

Nestopia.exe - System Error

The program can't start because d3dx9_43.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem. (this error has only been seen when games are being run through Nestopia in GameEx.)

C:\GameEx\DATA>chcp 65001
Active code page: 65001

C:\GameEx\DATA>C:

C:\GameEx\DATA>CD "C:\Emulators\Nestopia"

C:\Emulators\Nestopia>Nestopia.exe "C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\NES\Adventure Island I
I.zip"

MAME runitgame.bat

chcp 65001
C:
CD "C:\Emulators\MAME"

mame.exe Altered Beast -rompath "C:\Users\Doug\Desktop\MAME"

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Regarding your MAME issue, it appears that you've got MAME set up as a standard generic emulator. In the Setup Wizard you'll find that MAME actually has its own dedicated MAME Settings section for configuration. You'll want to configure MAME through the dedicated section rather than as a standard emulator. It is possible to configure MAME as a standard emulator through GameEx, but you'll want to avoid that if at all possible since GameEx has quite a number of special features dedicated to MAME that are only available through the dedicated MAME Settings section (plus it's just much less of a headache this way ;)).

Edit:
I meant to mention it before, but definitely follow fReq's advice regarding the DirectX update (his advice is gospel 'round these parts). You can do that right here: DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer. Let us know how everything is going Doug!

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Thanks a whole lot for the info fellas. I updated some of that already, but when I put my ROMS into the correct file path they still don't show up in the dedicated MAME section. I will try removing MAME from the "emulators" list. Maybe that will help with the confusion. Thanks again. I will let you all know for sure.

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You shouldn't have to do anything with GameEx since it seems that Nestopia was the application missing a DirectX dependency. When you updated DirectX it should hopefully have placed d3dx9_43.dll in the proper directory, Try running Nestopia again and see if you get different results.

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All done. I can get them to work in both EMs. However, I have found that Nestopia doesn't like to open up to full screen and that MAME, when I updated the games, gave me a ton of crap that I didn't put in there. I had only added like 5 ROMS and I now have over 3500 or something like that. I even have the Indi developer games option turned off so I should, in theory, have been able to see what I have added, right? I looked for a way to have Nestopia open up to full screen and it doesn't seem like there is an option. Is there an option in the emulator itself that I can tweek to make that happen. Thanks again. You have all be very helpful.

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Glad to hear of your progress Doug! There is a setting in Nestopia to set a fullscreen flag, but I'm away from my emulation rig at the moment. This post should be exceedingly helpful in that regard.

Regarding your plethora of MAME games, have you rebuilt your list after applying changes? If you scroll down to the bottom of your MAME menu in GameEx (not your game list, but the menu that lists game categories and the like), you'll see an option to rebuild your list. Give that a whirl and see what happens. If that doesn't work, post up your GameEx.ini and we'll have a look-see.

Thanks Doug

I see that fReq beat me to the Nestopia thing. Redundant advice isn't necessarily bad advice it just reinforces the concept. Yeah ... that's what I'm going with. :P

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Thanks again to all of you. I will try those out. Out of curiosity, what is it that you would look for in the .ini files or the last game log?

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What!? You want to see the wizard behind the curtain!? Gaze into the crystal ball of our troubleshooting process!? Learn the esoteric means by which we commune with the great spirits of GameEx!? Learn the secret transcendental language by which we converse with the oracle!? Are you sure you're ready for that!?

OK sorry. Honestly I'm sure everyone has their own methods of gleaning information form the logs and configs. More than anything it just takes experience in terms of analyzing the problem statement:

MAME is showing a lot more games than I actually have

and applying knowledge of the system to resolve that:

Sounds like it's likely related to the Only Existing ROMs setting on the MAME Settings screen

So yeah, I'm pretty sure Tempest nailed it. In this particular instance that would be the first setting I would check in your GameEx.ini

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New problem: Nestopia was opening yesterday, and now opens to a black screen and stays there. Any thoughts? I will check the GameEx .ini file again as well. Thanks for the help as always.

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In this case the best means of troubleshooting would be your runitgame.bat in combination with your emulator config. Try to run Nestopia from runitgame.bat. If it works that way, then it likely points to a problem in your GameEx configuration. If it still doesn't work via runitgame.bat, then it's more likely a problem with Nestopia (or possibly with GameEx, but in this case if the problem is with GameEx it will be explicitly observable as a command within runitgame.bat.)

If your game doesn't work through runitgame.bat, add a pause line to the file and run it again to see if any sort of error information is passed back to the command console. Check the How to Ask For Help thread for details on this.

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Sucesssss!!!!! Thanks so very much guys. I plan to purchase the full version of GameEx tomorrow, actually. I really just wanted to see if it would do what I needed it to before I spent any money on it. It's a very nice program, and well put together. Now all I have to do is find some Parents for my MAME and I think that should do it. So, thanks again to all of you. nullPointer you're witt was very much appreciated and your willingness to help out a complete stranger in a light and friendly way, thanks to Frequency and Tempest for their help as well. It was very direct and to the point. If anyone asks I will certainly refer them here. Have a great day.

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I have some little, wrap up, sort of questions. Upon buying the full access, will all of my emulators rotate 90 degrees or just GameEx? Also, I noticed that some of the verticle games have bezzles that have been preloaded. Is there a way to make bezzles, or get ones that match the other games that may not have them? Thanks again. Talk to you all soon.

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