Just for the hell of it I'll post again After trying every setting I could find in Mame, The screensaver works perfectly in the screensaver preview or with sound on (except the jukebox issue that's constant). With sound off it fails to load when 5 is pressed and crashes, I can play the games in silent by ticking the sound box but adding -nosound to the command line but it will not let me play the screensaver without sound but then be able to play the games with sound (but does in the preview mode) I can't even find an older version to try that.