I did try it with kenetix and it actually looked good, until you look away for a second and looses tracking. Plus as a 'spec' wearer it is a pain to get it to focus on your eyes. I found myself holding my glasses up and then putting them down again. It also did not pick up my wife who is shorter than me without messing about with it. The results of the 3d stuff is brilliant, but it has a long way to go! I am going to give BAM another go, but I found it worked standalone and not in Pinball X - plus it never seemed to remember if it was running fullscreen or not. Some things on FP are nowhere near as good as on VP - but FP has some excellent custom tables, and a few games that are not on VP so I will give it another go but without the 3D stuff. Give it a year or two and no doubt it will be improved.