Draco1962 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Hi Tom - Thought I would start a thread with a question. If I understand correctly, the changes noted with v2.19 will only install on a clean install of PinballX. For those of us that do not have Visual Pinball installed, I am assuming that will we have to uninstall PinballX and install the 2.19 in order to kick off this feature with the auto installation of Visual Pinball. Is that a correct assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If you don't have Visual Pinball installed and you choose to install it it will set the settings automatically. No need to uninstall. If PinMAME is not installed the option will always appear to install VP and automate. The warning about settings on a clean install was aimed at our "expert users" (not newbies to VP) who might be a bit surprised to find that PinballX is overwriting Visual Pinball and B2S settings automatically. Please try it out and let me know. I was thinking of you with this buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Something I just wanted to mention if folks were wondering why the VP install download was so big - it is because it includes .net framework 4 (for XP) and 4.5 (for Vista and above). This is in order to completing automate everything as B2S Server relies on .net 4 or 4.5 and 4 wont install on Win 7 x64 for some reason so I needed to include both. It is just me being a perfectionist Cheers. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ok, here comes the NEWB question... How do I get it to kick off the VP installation? Just tick the Auto Configure option in the VP settings via the Setup Wizard or is there something more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 And BTW, Thanks for thinking of me regarding this feature! My b-day is next week so I bet you can guess what I will be doing on part of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 It should be all done for you. Did you do the VP install when running setup? If you didn't get the option then you already have PinMAME installed. If its left over from when I had the cab then try uninstalling PinMAME. You do this by running the PinMAME setup.exe. To be clear the VP installation is kicked off during install of PinballX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Its pretty transparent so it may already be done. Do you have C:\Visual Pinball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drybonz Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 So will I be able to install the new PBX without it touching any of my visual pinball stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If your already setup with PBX and VP it is just business as usual. If you're already setup with VP and not PBX it is still not too much of a big deal either. It does not change much and makes no difference unless you have some really special setup of VP or B2D or something. Just make sure you set all the controls for PinballX. That is pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 OK, I had to delete the PinMAME references from the registry as it was not showing installed to be able to uninstall it. Once that step was complete, I saw the prompt upon install to setup and configure Visual Pinball. Now to try to figure out how to add tables, etc. Looking forward to some Doctor Who and Space 1999, KISS, and other pinball goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Look at the game manager to add tables. That was improved with this release too. Use "Import Table". The only other strict requirement is the PinMAME roms but these are available easily and also on the FTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outhere Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If I install pinballx 2.19 it will not change any of my settings? I already have pinballx 2.16 and visual pinball installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 No. Always good to have a backup though obviously. To be clear: PinballX settings are never changed on an update install. (Still good to have a backup) In regards to Visual Pinball and this new release, the only settings it sets are for the keyboard/gamepad controls and setting the resolution to full screen. It does not mess with anything else. This is actually a good thing. Cheers. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 So far I have been able to confirm that it does download and install VP. I will be acquiring tables to test further, but likely won't get much time to devote until sometime this weekend. Initial test I was able to load the Doctor Who table outside of PinballX. Thanks again! I will report back with any issues or questions I may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolywiz Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I was wondering where I can grab a copy of 2.17 or 2.18? I'm afraid to install 2.19, as everything is configured perfectly including my VP, and don't want control settings or resolution changes. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kustom Kid Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 @koolywiz you should be good. 2.19 doesn't change much of anything if you're already set up. I installed it over 2.17 and everything is working the same as before. That being said I always make a backup, just in case, and delete it after a few days of use if something does go haywire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolywiz Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Ok thanks, wasn't sure what it automatically would change with my existing VP setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 OK, I have tried to search for a solution but bupkis so far. I decided to start with one table (Doctor Who) and have the ROMs and tables placed in the correct directory. Outside and inside of PinballX, the table comes up left rotated. I have my rotation set for 270 which is perfect for Pinball FX2 and Pinball Arcade. Anyone have a clue? Here is my pinballx.ini Spoiler [Display] Monitor=0 Rotate=270 Windowed=False WindowWidth=1080 WindowHeight=1920 WindowX=0 WindowY=65 PlayFieldBrightness=180 WheelTextColor=ffffffff WheelTextOutlineColor=ff000000 InfoTextColor=ffffffff InfoTextOutlineColor=ff000000 FilterTextColor=ffffffff FilterTextOutlineColor=ff000000 MenuColor=ff10165f FullScreenWindowed=True ShowExitImageFor=3 [BackGlass] monitor=1 x=0 y=0 width=1920 height=1080 AutoPositionB2S=True [DMD] Enabled=True monitor=2 x=5 y=18 width=800 height=320 AutoPositionPinMAME=True [FileSystem] EnableFileMatching=True [Interface] DesktopModeEnabled=False EnableAdditionalDetail=False ShowSystem=True ShowRatings=True OneClickLaunch=True [Audio] StreamVolume=90 SampleVolume=90 PlaySoundInVideos=False [Startup] playsound=False playvideo=False StartWithWindows=No [KeyCodes] quit=27 left=37 right=39 select=13 rotate=82 pageleft=33 pageright=34 exitemulator=27 ingame=80 screenshot=83 screenshotbackglass=66 instructions=73 volumedown=109 volumeup=107 credit=53 plunger=164 [JoyCodes] quit=7 left=9 right=1 select=8 rotate= pageleft=10 pageright=2 exitemulator=11 ingame=7 instructions= [Text] Line1=Free Play Line2=Press Start [FuturePinball] Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\Future Pinball TablePath=C:\Future Pinball\Tables Executable=Future Pinball.exe Parameters=/open "[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" /play /exit /arcaderender LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True MouseClickFocus=True [VisualPinball] Enabled=True WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables Executable=VPinball992.exe Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" LaunchBeforeEnabled=false LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=True LaunchAfterEnabled=False LaunchAfterWorkingPath= LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe LaunchAfterHideWindow=False LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True NVRAMPath=C:\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME\nvram AutoConfigure=True [ExitScreen] Enabled=True EnableExit=True EnableShutdown=True [StartupProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=true WaitForExit=false [ExitProgram] Enabled=false WorkingPath= Executable=notepad.exe Paramaters= HideWindow=False WaitForExit= [AttractMode] Enabled=True Timer=1 ShowFor=30 [System_1] Name=Pinball FX2 Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\Steam TablePath=C:\Steam\Tables Executable=PinballFX.exe Parameters= LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable= [System_2] Name=MAME Enabled=False WorkingPath=C:\Emulators\MAME 0.166 TablePath=C:\ROMS\MAME Executable=mame.exe Parameters=[TABLEFILE] SystemType=0 LaunchBeforeEnabled=False LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Xpadder LaunchBeforeExecutable=Xpadder.exe [AutoExit] Enabled=True Minutes=15 [Login] Enabled=True [SetupWizard] EmuPath1=C:\Emulators AssetPath1=C:\Assets RomPath1=C:\Roms DefaultPathPrompt=True DownloadDatabasePrompt=True DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True WizardMode=1 CustomArray= SearchArray= SavePosition=False SectionIndex=20 SearchText=dmd EmulatorIndex=0 EmulatorGroupIndex=0 DaphneIndex=0 HTMLAppsIndex=0 ExternalAppsIndex=0 RadioStationsIndex=0 NewsFeedsIndex=0 MappedDrivesIndex=0 SystemIndex=2 ShowPanel=True FontSize=1 WindowState=0 WindowSize=1051,553 WindowLocation=140,76 [Internal] lastselected=Visual Pinball - Doctor Who (Midway 1992)doctor who OzPinUW_FS v1.0VisualPinball filter_year= filter_company= filter_custom= filtername=Tables lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123 [GameListManager] onlinemode=true [PinballFX2] Enabled=True WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=Steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 226980 "[TABLEFILE]" WaitFor=-1 LaunchBeforeEnabled=False LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Xpadder LaunchBeforeExecutable=Xpadder.exe Process=Pinball FX2.exe [Plugin_1] Enabled=False Name=PlugInLED.dll [Plugin_2] Enabled=False Name=PlugInSpeech.dll [Plugin_3] Enabled=False Name=QuickLaunch (PinballX Edition).dll [Plugin_4] Enabled=False Name=Xpadder Plugin.dll [PinballArcade] Enabled=True WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam Executable=steam.exe Parameters=-applaunch 238260 skipwhatsnew WaitFor=15 Process=PinballArcade.exe [System_3] Name=Visual Pinball X Enabled=True SystemType=1 WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables Executable=VPinballx.exe Parameters=/play -"[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]" LaunchBeforeWorkingPath= LaunchBeforeExecutable= and my log.txt Spoiler 17:27:11.6 6/2/2016: PinballX - Version 2.19 17:27:11.7 6/2/2016: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (15.9GB) 17:27:11.7 6/2/2016: Loading Settings 17:27:11.7 6/2/2016: Initialize Component 17:27:11.7 6/2/2016: Initialize Display 17:27:12.8 6/2/2016: Loading PlugIns 17:27:13.1 6/2/2016: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 17:27:13.1 6/2/2016: Created DirectX DMD Window 17:27:13.5 6/2/2016: Hiding Cursor 17:27:13.5 6/2/2016: Hiding Taskbar 17:27:14.0 6/2/2016: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 17:27:14.0 6/2/2016: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 17:27:14.0 6/2/2016: Displays: 3 17:27:14.0 6/2/2016: Load Game List 17:27:14.0 6/2/2016: Loading Database: Pinball FX2 17:27:14.1 6/2/2016: Loading Database: Pinball Arcade 17:27:14.1 6/2/2016: Loading Database: Visual Pinball 17:27:14.1 6/2/2016: Finding and matching artwork and videos 17:27:14.7 6/2/2016: Loading Game Statistics and Scores 17:27:14.7 6/2/2016: Main display running full screen windowed. 17:27:14.7 6/2/2016: Loading Surfaces 17:27:14.9 6/2/2016: Finished Loading Surfaces 17:27:14.9 6/2/2016: Initialize Audio 17:27:15.1 6/2/2016: Set Keyboard Controls 17:27:15.1 6/2/2016: Initialize Joystick 17:27:15.2 6/2/2016: Auto configure Visual Pinball 17:27:15.2 6/2/2016: 1 Joystick Attached 17:27:15.2 6/2/2016: Started 17:27:25.0 6/2/2016: Launch System 17:27:25.0 6/2/2016: Waiting for threads 17:27:25.0 6/2/2016: Disposing display 17:27:25.8 6/2/2016: C:\Visual Pinball\VPinball992.exe /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\doctor who OzPinUW_FS v1.0.vpt" 17:27:25.9 6/2/2016: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe 17:27:31.8 6/2/2016: Found PinMAME ROM: dw_l2.nv 17:27:31.8 6/2/2016: Setting DMD position 17:27:31.9 6/2/2016: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window 17:27:55.2 6/2/2016: Exit System Control Pressed 17:27:59.4 6/2/2016: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 17:27:59.4 6/2/2016: Created DirectX DMD Window 17:27:59.4 6/2/2016: Main display running full screen windowed. 17:28:04.6 6/2/2016: Launch System 17:28:04.6 6/2/2016: Waiting for threads 17:28:04.6 6/2/2016: Disposing display 17:28:04.7 6/2/2016: C:\Visual Pinball\VPinball992.exe /play -"C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\doctor who OzPinUW_FS v1.0.vpt" 17:28:04.7 6/2/2016: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe 17:28:15.2 6/2/2016: Found PinMAME ROM: dw_l2.nv 17:28:15.2 6/2/2016: Setting DMD position 17:28:15.4 6/2/2016: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window 17:30:00.5 6/2/2016: Exit System Control Pressed 17:30:04.0 6/2/2016: Created DirectX BackGlass Window 17:30:04.1 6/2/2016: Created DirectX DMD Window 17:30:04.1 6/2/2016: Main display running full screen windowed. Just an FYI, I changed the rotation to 0 and no difference for Pinball FX2 and Pinball Arcade - they still display in cabinet orientation. Visual Pinball, however, is still left rotated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 UPDATE: Making some progress. I had to load the table and set the XY Rotation to 0 in the backdrop settings, in addtion to tinkering with the X and Y scaling. The table now displays properly in a cabinet orientation. Unfortunately, it is not playing proper as it will tilt almost immediately. Likely as a result of running the VirtuaPin 2 setup. Does anyone currently use X360ce with VP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carny_Priest Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Nope. You set your buttons in VP Preferences -> Keys. Analog nudging and plunger should be supported in VP automatically but you may have to do some tuning. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Speirs Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 It seems I have scared people off this install? Do I normally screw up so bad!? I think you should be able to trust me on history that its not going to screw up your system in any way, right? I've been doing this stuff since the age of 9 and I rarely screw up and on the rare occasion I have messed up have you known me not to address it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think they are concerned about having to redo their settings after the update. I had no worries and didn't even backup anything - a leap of faith that it wouldbe alright. No disappointment so far! Now I need to learn the ins and outs of VP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco1962 Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 6 hours ago, Carny_Priest said: Nope. You set your buttons in VP Preferences -> Keys. Analog nudging and plunger should be supported in VP automatically but you may have to do some tuning. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Where do I go to adjust the plunger and nudging settings? Likely this is the same issue I had before where the sound is causing the game to tilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carny_Priest Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 In Visual Pinball editor, menu bar Preferences -> Keys... Global Options, Axis Assignments I don't know what PinballX installs. A thorough installation for cabinets would have v9.92, Physmod_5, and v10.0. Settings for each version are stored in separate registries so you would have to tune all three. Because of changes to the physics engine over time, the values would be different. I'm used to it at this point, but, yeah, coming at it new the learning curve is really steep. I think gtxjoe posted some tutorials on YouTube. Might be good to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASER Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 @Draco1962 you might have a calibration issue with whatever your using for your accelerometer. I was using a UHID nano for buttons and the accelerometer and had issues in Windows 10 after I upgraded Now I'm just using the Zebsboards plungers button encoder/nudge controller with the latest firmware world of difference lost the problem Look at this manual it has a section on calibration that universal. Has to be right in windows first http://www.u-hid.com/u-config/u-hid Manual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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