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#1 snarls

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:26 PM

Hi,

I used to have SSF working fine via gameex but it just magically stopped working in the last couple of days. It all started when I started trying out different themes. I checked the log and see nothing unusual. Though I think it's not loading the disc image via DT Lite as it used to, because SSF says "Drive door open" for the virtual drive. I switched back to Default - New theme and that didn't fix it. I'm running 12.68.

I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the tricky/unstable setup for games which require CD images via a virtual drive. What would cause a working SSF to stop loading discs via the gameex launcher if the config hadn't changed?? If I manually load a disc image in DT Lite and run SSF it works - and it used to from gameex. Ive scoured these forums but nothing works anymore (when trying to load an iso/bin etc) - whats the trick? Ive also never been able to get epsxe to work loading discs ever. Any definitive help on this would be greatly appreciated. Does anyone have a definitively working import for SSF & ePSXe?

thanks :)

P.S. It was "Blue Glass" that I selected when things stopped working with SSF (all the other non-image emus still work fine) it's a nice practical theme with large screenshot images but I have a feeling it may not be fully working? is that possible?

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#2 Draco1962

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:53 PM

We shouldn't be seeing a theme "breaking" an emulator functionality. Can you provide a copy of your gameex.ini file as well? Also, please download the latest GameEx install file direct from the site and install it that way to see if it resolves your issue with SSF.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 03:58 PM

Looking at the two emulator ini's. I see you're using virtualdrive instead of Daemon Tools lite to mount the images. Recently I too tried to use virtualdrive, but had problems with certain cd image types not mounting. Maybe try using DTlite instead of virtual drive?

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:12 PM

I use DT Lite and GameEx integrated support for it. My command line looks like this:

ssf.exe [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\

Do you have DT Lite installed on your machine? Post your Saturn config?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:24 AM

I do have DTLite on my machine and ssf and epsxe work outside of gameex if i manually load a cd image into DTLite and run those emus.

So how does this work does gameex use its own virtual cd when you use the [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\ and the other option uses LaunchBefore and LaunchAfter calling DTLite to mount and unmount cds? I'm still not sure what the difference between [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\ and [-VIRTUALDRIVE-] is and why some people put the 2nd token here without a space next to the exe as Ive seen in the forum?

For Saturn, I have .iso, .cdi, .bin with .cue, and .mdf with .mds files. I checked the cues and they seem to point to the right paths and all of these work outside of gameex.

@Adultery can you please post your LaunchBefore and LaunchAfter and I'll try that.

@Draco I'm not sure the theme broke things, but it was after I tried a few and then switched to "Blue Glass" that my cd based emus stopped working properly. Also a few other minor weird things started happening, like the additional info per game used to load up in a wider zoomed in notepad thing (easy to read), and now loads in a portrait style notepad zoomed out with smaller text. Also pdf manuals dont seem to load and last played & playcounts for games don't show up on the game page (it just says N/A) though the game plays do show up on the Statistics page? Any ideas? I have 12.68 installed already... Can themes change functionality or are they just graphic skins?

thanks everyone for your assistance and patience trying to help me fix my issues... :)

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:28 AM

Looking at the two emulator ini's. I see you're using virtualdrive instead of Daemon Tools lite to mount the images. Recently I too tried to use virtualdrive, but had problems with certain cd image types not mounting. Maybe try using DTlite instead of virtual drive?


thanks Bigby. Maybe you are right, but what was confusing me is that my emu configs hadnt changed but they stopped loading the cds thru gameex after I changed the theme so those images used to work. Unless it's an intermittent thing? But if you think DTlite is more reliable I'll try that again, I first tried it when I first setup gameex some months ago, but had trouble getting it to work even though my paths were correct...?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:34 AM

We shouldn't be seeing a theme "breaking" an emulator functionality. Can you provide a copy of your gameex.ini file as well? Also, please download the latest GameEx install file direct from the site and install it that way to see if it resolves your issue with SSF.


Another question, as I posted it, I had a look through my Gameex.ini and there was some weird (but probably innocuous) stuff in it which must be in the install, since I don't have an app called mad dog nor an mp3 of 4 non blondes - ;-) but I'm fairly certain those aren't my problems. I'm just not sure why they are in there?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:39 AM

Those are in there for the demo setup and can be removed without any problems.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:44 PM

So how does this work does gameex use its own virtual cd when you use the [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\ and the other option uses LaunchBefore and LaunchAfter calling DTLite to mount and unmount cds?


I don't use a LaunchBefore / LaunchAfter because [-VIRTUALDRIVE-] handles all that for me. ;)

[Emulator_21]
PlayMusic=False
CustomArtName2=Advertisement
BoxPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\Box
RemoveBrackets=True
ReplaceUnder=False
TITLETEXT=Sega Saturn
CustomArtName1=Box (Back)
ImageNotFound=F:\Images\no_img.png
PCGame=False
STARTPAGENAME=SEGA Saturn
CartPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\CD
Info=Sega Saturn emulator
WorkingPath=F:\Emulators\SSF
Capitals=False
CustomArtPath1=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\BoxBack
TitlePath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\Title
Emulator=SSF
Command=ssf.exe [VIRTUALDRIVE]:\
SnapPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\Snap
DownloadUrl=http://www.gamesdbase.com/setupwizard/emulators/download/SSF.7z
PlayInScreenSaver=False
Enabled=True
RequiredFiles=Bios - SEGA_101.BIN and stv110.bin (512kb each)
SelectionMusicFolder=C:\Artwork\EmuMusic
ManualPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\Manual
LaunchBefore=
LaunchAfter=
MapKeys=True
System=Sega Saturn
configFile=[Mapping Off] Exit (Process Close)
ROMFilter=*.cue
PlaySelectionMusic=True
Website=http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/index.html
StartPageLogo=Sega Saturn
CustomArtPath2=F:\Emulators\SSF\Artwork\Advert
Debug=False
ControlPanelPath=F:\Images\Controls\Emulators\Saturn.png
CDCheck=False
RomPath=F:\Emulators\SSF\Roms
DontShowInfo=False
Version=Ver0.12 alpha
ReplaceDash=False
GameExtenderCustomArtPath=F:\Images\Emus\SAT.png
RandomMostPlayed=True
GamesIn7Zips=False
Category=Console
ShowDesktop=True
CustomBackground=Back-Sega_Saturn.png
UseDbName=False
DATABASE=[Console] Sega Saturn
ShowMostPlayed=True
AlsoLaunch=
MusicPath=
TVAdPath=
VideoSnapPath=
lastgame=


I can't speak to "certain types not working" because all mine are BIN/CUE and I know that works... I don't need to mount for any other emulator (unless I finally decide to get Magic Engine running).

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