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#1 tarheels82

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:26 PM

First off thanks for any help you can provide. I have read and read and still can't seem to figure this out. I had gameex showing the mame roms but they did not play. I thought it was because i downloaded the wrong mame emulator. I now have mameui32 downloaded with a few roms. When I try to lauch a game from mameui32 i just get a box at the bottom of screen but it can't load. Is the problem with the roms? This is my first time with emulators and roms but I think I have a basic understanding. And now when I launch gameex I cant even read the emulators. Its like it doesnt completely load. Thanks again for any help

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 12:52 AM

Hello and welcome!

First of all, we need your configuration and your log files to troubleshoot this problem closer. Your issue is too vague for now. Please read http://www.gameex.in...o-ask-for-help/ and post the relevant files here so we can have a closer sight of what is happening.

This will be a starting point, but a necessary one.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 01:11 AM

View Posttarheels82, on 22 January 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

When I try to lauch a game from mameui32 i just get a box at the bottom of screen but it can't load. Is the problem with the roms?

So explain to me exactly what's happening here (in addition to adding the files that Alpha asked you to post). You launch a game, the game doesn't load but the GameEx info box pops up? Or does it fall back to your gamelist?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:58 AM

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 04:06 AM

hope that is the right file you are looking for. after more trial and error, I have gameex setup and I can see the roms I have under mame emulator. when i select a game and then hit play game after 3 or 4 sec it comes back to the game menu. i have never used these roms so i'm not sure they are good. but more likely i'm setting something up wrong. i'm not going to mess with it anymore until i get some feedback. one thing i'm noticing is every other time i load gameex is doens't fully load. thanks again for the help

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 04:58 AM

Does nba jam run for you outside of GameEx?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

no, when i launch mame i get an error "no drivers loaded" mame was downloaded using gameex

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:10 PM

You said you have MAMEUI32, but it seems you actually have MAME. I would check for version conflict. Which version of MAME GameEx downloaded for you? (hover your mause over the main MAME executable and read the version). Which romset version do you have?

Since it's difficult to find older version of MAMEUI, unless you have the latest 144 romset, I think it's better for you to manually download the MAME version that match with your romset and re-set paths and everything MAME-related in Setup Wizard.
http://mamedev.org/

Update your game list in GameEx.

Don't try to launch MAME directly, it is a command line application and doesn't have a GUI interface. Use GameEx to launch your games istead, and let us know what happens.
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:05 PM

yes i started with mameui32 but that didn't work so i tried mame via gameex. mame file version 0.141 downloaded by gameex. i only have a few roms so if i lost them it would be a huge deal. how to i match up roms with the right version of mame. should i download mame from mamedev and delete the folder from gameex. does it matter if i download the source file or binary file. thanks for being patient with me and for the help

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:16 PM

View Posttarheels82, on 23 January 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

i only have a few roms so if i lost them it would be a huge deal. how to i match up roms with the right version of mame.

This will require that you delve into the wonderful world of ROM auditing tools. I feel that ROM auditing is one of the most important aspects of this hobby, and one of the key components that separate those that dabble in emulation from those that seriously address emulation as a hobby. There are typically two schools of thought regarding ROM auditing tools: those that favor ROM Center and those that favor clrmamepro. Clrmamepro has been around for a bit longer, and seems to have a somewhat steep learning curve. ROM Center seems to be a bit more intuitive, but my experience with it is fairly limited. Both programs are excellent at what they do.

The following forum post contains links to some good clrmamepro tutorials:

http://www.dadsfme.c...hp?topic=2616.0

In order to understand what clrmamepro is doing it would probably be best to work through those tutorials in order, but you’ll want to pay especially close attention to the last two tutorials in the series as they relate specifically to MAME.

I’ve only dabbled with ROM Center so don’t really have good ROM Center tutorial suggestions. They’re certainly out there if you care to look though.

View Posttarheels82, on 23 January 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

should i download mame from mamedev and delete the folder from gameex.

Technically it shouldn’t matter. A lot of users would advise that you simply grab the most recent stable release (currently 0.144). More advanced users would advise that you take a look at the change logs to determine if the version of MAME you’re using supports the games you want to play. Notably 0.144 lost the ability to play a lot of the great Cave shmups (at least it’s still this way as far as I know – it’s certainly the reason I’m still on 0.143 ;) )

View Posttarheels82, on 23 January 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

does it matter if i download the source file or binary file

Yes, it matters rather a lot. In your case I’d recommend simply downloading the binary file. Essentially this boils down to the following distinction: The binary contains an executable which will run on your computer. The source contains the source code for the project. Once you’ve been around a while you might decide that you’d like to compile your own version of MAME in order to enable custom features in the program (high score support, no nag screens, etc.). At that point you’ll want to grab the source code which can henceforth be compiled into an executable. Further discussion of compiling is outside the scope of your initial question, unless you want to go there. I’d recommend getting a handle on MAME and ROM auditing before you jump into compiling.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:49 PM

POST REMOVED! Please refrain from mentionong ROMs, your aquiring of said ROMs, or anything related to purchasing ROMs. This is blatently against forum rules!

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 08:28 PM

first off sorry for the rules violation. ok so i've download .144 version of mame. everything should match that. when i launch gameex i get white boxes where the list of options would be. here is newest log file. thanks for being patient with me.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

If you wouldn't mind posting the contents of your gamee.ini file. You will find it under \gameex\config . You can zip the file and attach it to your response. Thanks!

Just from reviewing the log file, I would suggest going through the MAME section of the Setup Wizard and setting the paths for the items showing missing in the log file. You will need to make sure that you have setup the paths in MAME first so that both MAME and GameEx are looking for the same files in the same locations.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:21 PM

didn't see where to attach file. i didn't setup anything using mame, just the setup inside gameex
12:18:16.9 1/29/2012: Opening Configuration File
12:18:17.0 1/29/2012: GameEx: Version 12.54: Starting Log
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: Operating System Platform: Win32NT
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: Operating System Name: Windows XP
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: Operating System Version: 5.1.2600
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz, 1407MB
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: 3.19Ghz
12:18:17.1 1/29/2012: Running Randomize()
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Loading PlugIns
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Checking for applications to Launch On Startup
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Running Misc startup tasks
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Setting Menu types
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Getting Configuration Values
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Using Theme: Default - Media Center
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Checking for alternate Image Directory for Theme: Default - Media Center
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Using Images from theme: Default - Media Center V1\MEDIA\
12:18:17.3 1/29/2012: Launching HideOS.exe
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Initialising Video/MNG DLL's
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: GameEx will check for media insertion (may affect performance)
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Hiding Taskbar
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Is Media Center running?
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Checking/Creating LCD Registry values
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Check Media Center Exit/Start Mode
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Media Center Mode 2
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Video previews on. Warning: Only recommended on modern systems
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Snap Delay set to: 2
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Get other settings
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Desktop set to Hide ICONS and set Background to Black
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Set: Find emulator artwork on best match basis
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Start work for Form
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Getting Original Screen Size
12:18:17.4 1/29/2012: Opening Database Connection
12:18:18.7 1/29/2012: Initializing Component
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: MAME Path is: C:\Emulators\Mame
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: MAME EXE file is: Mame.exe
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: ROM Path is: C:\Roms\mame\roms
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: Catver.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\catver.ini
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: controls.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\controls.ini
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: History.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\history.dat
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: nplayers.ini is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\nplayers.ini
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: command.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\command.dat
12:18:19.5 1/29/2012: MAMEinfo.dat is located at: C:\GameEx\DATA\mameinfo.dat
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Loading Controls.ini map file
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Snap Path is: C:\Roms\mame\snap
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Background Snap Path is: C:\Roms\mame\snap
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: AVI Snap Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Flyer Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Cabinet Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Cabinet 3D Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Title Path is: C:\Roms\mame\titles
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: PCB Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Artwork Preview Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Panel Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Manual Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Icon Path: Not Found
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Marquee Path is: C:\Roms\mame\marquees
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Applying Language/Text
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Text/Language: English
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Loading Custom Emulators
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Loading Emulator 1: [Arcade] Arcade (MAME)
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Using Version 3 Themes Animations
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Retrieving resolution setting
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Using General Font: Trebuchet MS
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: Using Title Font: Trebuchet MS
12:18:19.6 1/29/2012: GameEx will try to reduce CPU usage
12:18:19.7 1/29/2012: Initialising Direct3D
12:18:19.8 1/29/2012: Setting Resolution to 1024x768 32 bit color
12:18:19.9 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces
12:18:20.0 1/29/2012: Creating Primary Surface - Full Screen Mode
12:18:20.0 1/29/2012: Creating Back Buffer
12:18:20.0 1/29/2012: Loading graphic Surfaces
12:18:20.1 1/29/2012: Display is running at: 1024x768 32bit color, 75hz
12:18:20.1 1/29/2012: Adapter: Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head
12:18:20.1 1/29/2012: Max texture size: 2048x2048
12:18:20.1 1/29/2012: Available texture memory: 7MB
12:18:20.1 1/29/2012: Initialising Bass Audio Library
12:18:20.2 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Misc and Dialogs
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Volume
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Arrows
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces GameEXlogo Text
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Toolbar
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Toolbar Controls
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Backgrounds
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces GameEx Logo
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surface Unselected
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Snaps
12:18:20.3 1/29/2012: Creating Surfaces Menu and List Bars
12:18:20.7 1/29/2012: Creating Fonts
12:18:20.7 1/29/2012: Creating Game Font
12:18:20.9 1/29/2012: Creating Game Font Faded
12:18:21.0 1/29/2012: Creating Title Font
12:18:21.0 1/29/2012: Restoring Title Font From Cache
12:18:21.4 1/29/2012: Creating Font Black
12:18:21.5 1/29/2012: Creating Font Black Small
12:18:21.6 1/29/2012: Fonts Created Succesfully
12:18:21.6 1/29/2012: 0MB Video Memory Used
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: Attempting to load game list
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: MAME CMD options: -nowindow -joy -skip_gameinfo
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: Creating DirectSound Device
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: Trying: Primary Sound Driver
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: Unable to Create DirectSound Device
12:18:44.9 1/29/2012: Initialising DirectInput for Gamepad support
12:18:45.1 1/29/2012: Unable to create a joystick device
12:18:45.1 1/29/2012: Loading Start Page
12:18:45.2 1/29/2012: Initializing MCE Remote
12:18:45.3 1/29/2012: Initialization OK! Starting GameEx!
12:18:45.3 1/29/2012: Testing Main Loop Once: Processing Frame
12:18:45.6 1/29/2012: Testing Main Loop Once: Main Loop ran successfully
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Exiting GameEx!
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Disposing all videos
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Deleting temporary Karaoke videos
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Disposing Image List
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Disposing Fonts
12:19:08.0 1/29/2012: Disposing Surfaces
12:19:08.1 1/29/2012: Saving Settings
12:19:08.1 1/29/2012: Shutting down Bass
12:19:08.1 1/29/2012: Closing HideOS.exe
12:19:10.1 1/29/2012: Disposing Plugins
12:19:10.1 1/29/2012: Disposing Plugins
12:19:10.1 1/29/2012: Closing database connection
12:19:10.2 1/29/2012: Checking for applications to Launch On Exit
12:19:10.2 1/29/2012: Bye

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

Looks like you copied your log.txt file again. B)

If you haven't set up you file paths in MAME, then you have some work ahead of you. Since GameEX is a Front End, it doesn't control your emulator. It is imperative that you setup the paths for your ROMS, Snaps, etc. within each emulator you care to run through GameEx from within each emulator outside of GameEx.

Generally, you will want to setup MAME to run alone. Once you have it running and playing your ROMS via the emulator, you will then need to setup GameEx as previously noted.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:00 AM

sorry, still new at this. i thought when i set up mame through the gameex wizard that was it.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:33 AM

Not a problem. There is a lot about this hobby so no need to apologize for not knowing. Front ends (GameEx, MaLa, HyperSpin, etc.) are kind of what you might think of as the local mall - a central gathering place of different stores (your emulators) and their products (ROMS, Images, etc.). Before you can sell widgets at the mall, you have to have a fully stocked & operational Widgets-R-Us. You are still stocking your store and configuring it to operate correctly.

Just ask lots of questions, take notes. We are here to share and help!

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:09 AM

finally working games in mame, now on to gameex, thanks again. i'm sure i'll be back for more help

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:05 PM

You should consider reading the topic "How to Ask For Help". It not only shows how to ask for help, but it contains information on debugging your setup. There is a link to "How to ask for help" in Draco's signature.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:59 PM

I don't see how to attach a file and if I post the contents of my GameEx.ini file it says the post is too long!





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